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Denak Kalamari
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Posted - 2013.12.17 06:46:00 -
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Demel Derpovsky wrote:Just a question since I'm assuming your an Eve player...well it's really a list:
1) If one would travel from one side of the known universe to the next, who long would it take them? 2) What is this "Sansha". I've heard of it being a faction that relies on mind-controlled slaves with an upper-echelon-souped-up-elite-1% ruling population. 3) Thoughts on Jove and Sansha ships. Yay? Nay? Pros and Cons?
Might be quite a wacky and all over list, but enlighten my naive mind of the truth, your words of wisdom mean no bounds to the subject of Eve!
No but seriously, answer whatever you want.
And keep bumping it, we'll always need your help. 1. That really depends on a lot of factors. I'm not sure where the far-ends of the New Eden cluster are, but I remember being said that traveling from one end to the other would take several hours at best. And how long this takes really depends on the ship you use, and the space itself. Most of your trip from one end to the other would be in nullsec, and in territory where the policy is shoot everyone who isn't a friendly. You would have to make a lot of detours to avoid hostile forces, which would extend your trip considerably. Realistically, going from one end to the other could take several days, even weeks because you would have to do a lot more dodging past obstacles than actual travelling.
And then there are wormholes, and if you theoretically got very lucky, you could enter a wormhlle from one end of the galaxy and find another one that pops out from the other end of the galaxy in just one jump. Then there are jump drives, which would change the duration of the trip even more.
But ideally, if you were using the fastest possible ship in game and had no obstacles to avoid, the trip would be around 80 jumps, which you could do in a few hours.
2. Kador already explained this so I won't delve into this.
3. Sansha ships are one of the most deadly and advanced ships found in New Eden, as Kador already explained. You usuaully comd across these ships in Sansha incursions. As for Jove ships, there's a total of eight different types. They are often balanced to be built to do pretty much anything which makes them valuable. However, all of them can only be acquired through one of a time special events, which makes them a rare commodity and not that often used.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 13th
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2013.12.24 07:34:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:Uhhh...haha, I don't know if I could EXPLAIN Caldanese to you (that IS what it's called, though)
All I really know is it's very Asian in nature; Japanese to be specific, which is what i believe Caldari RP-ers use, though it definitely wouldn't be TRUE Japanese, but something descended from it. Very frequently seen, with names like the 'Shigeru' for the Leviathan that was over Caldari Prime, or the Kitsune-class (Kitsune is Fox in Japanese) Electronic Attack frigate.
It would also be safe to say, that before the unified Caldari people existed, different languages and dialects existed between the Civire and Deteis as well, especially since both are of European, and not Asian, descent. There isn't much official canon about the languages used by the Empires much, but I will add that the Caldari language is not based on Japanese only, it also has influence from the Finnish language(their names and culture also base on Finland a little). There is also a player created language called Napanii, which acts as the prime language used within the Caldari State. And in general, all the Empires would have a variety of different languages they speak, but use one singular as the 'official language' so to speak.
Dagger Two wrote:Hey, while on the topic, lets talk about other languages as well.
English, as it was the most dominant language before the collapse of EVE, rose again to be the dominant language of New Eden as well, though it's never been explained how or why. Each race has its own 'native' tongues as well, based on their ancestry and pre-collapse affiliations. It was my understanding that English didn't exist in the New Eden universe(my lore contacts also are saying this), as nearly all inter-Empire communications are done with the use of translator modules. Can you point me somewhere saying otherwise?
Dagger Two wrote:The Gallenteans speak a language descended from French, though it would be impossible to say the original dialects of the Intaki, Mannar, and Jin-Mei would be. The main Gallente language is based off of French, yes. As for Jin-Mei and Intaki, both are asian based races. Intaki speak a mixture of Indian languages, which also exists as a player created language, dubbed just Intaki. As for Jin-Mei, I've always thought that their language was based on Chinese or some other Middle-Asian language.
Dagger Two wrote:Minmatar and Amarr, we know least about. the Minmatar are so varied in ancestry that as a people they could have used a dozen different languages between tribes, and potentially dozens more dialect variations among those. There was some speculation about the languages of Matari recently, and the general consensus was that their languages were based on a mix of Scandinavian(excluding Finland) and Middle-Eastern languages. That's as far as I can speculate about them.
DaggerTwo wrote:The Amarr descended from a prolific religious group that was founded out of the old Catholic Church. Again, there is no evidence I've seen to point to what sort of native language the Amarr might have had, or even if they had one other than just English. Being born out of Catholicism though, it would make sense if they spoke any number of latin-based languages, or an amalgam of them. (Italian and Spanish, for example) I should note, that this is definitely one topic I am not too familiar with. If anyone else has more info, please share. Generally, all the languages of New Eden aren't direct copies of their real life counterparts, so I suspect that the Amarr have mostly latin-based languages, like Spanish or just straight out Latin. Language in New Eden is mostly based on player speculation and the few hints given by the snippets of languages and the tons of names all the Empires have. The Backstage is generally good for all kinds of lore discussion.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 13th
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2013.12.24 18:23:00 -
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Mistaahh Juvenile wrote:Like, I see @galm fae being called Fae-haan etc. What does that mean, etc? Again, it's part of the player created language Napanii, it will tell more about the language and how it works, and is often used by Caldari roleplayers.
But to answer the question about your example, -haan and -haani suffixes work kind of the same way as when in Japanese you sometimes put -san after addressing a person by name. In short, -haan and -haani suffixes translate to comrade, so when somebody says Fae-haan, they mean Comrade Fae. -haan is used for males, and -haani for females. There's also a few other suffixes that have different meanings, like -guri, which would stand for criminal. But just to have a more Caldari-ish vibe to your language, just learning -haan and -haani is good enough.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 13th
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2013.12.27 22:47:00 -
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Yeah, mercenary anatomy is a very shady subject with barely any information about it. But just as a curious question, have Officer weapons(Specifically Balac's, Cala's, Krin's and Gastun's) always existed in DUST, or were they added at a later point? Knowing this could probably give some pointers on when the events described in the Stranded chronicles happened, and maybe even a few hints on if we still hold this tech. They couldn't have happened too long ago, the setting described in part 1 don't seem too old. That said, I really want to see the series continued, maybe even converted into a full novel. I'd really love that.
But back on topic, I'm not too sure about clone soldiers having cybernetic augmentations too much or too many "cut corners". With the whole case of the Jovian disease, which was a result of tampering genetics way too much, I'd assume that the Empires would be cautious about such things. So no, I don't think they'd remove our digestive system or anything like that. However, in my mind it would make sense that some bodily processes have been made more, straightforward. For instance, instead of feeding you food, it gets directly injected into your bloodstream, minimizing the need for waste removal. But again, this is pretty much pure educated guessing, and the only hints I have are the Stranded chronicles.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 27th
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2013.12.28 07:10:00 -
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Can you both just stop it? You're both equally big idiots continuing this pointless argument.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 27th
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2013.12.28 07:47:00 -
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Galm Fae wrote:Dagger-Two wrote:Denak Kalamari wrote:Can you both just stop it? You're both equally big idiots continuing this pointless argument. You're both right. Sorry that got so out of hand. Consider the following: Being an ass doesn't make me any less right. However if it truly is an issue to you then I'll get over it. The issue is not you disagreeing wity Dagger or vice versa, the problems is you both have overinflated egos and refuse to back down, resulting in pointless namecalling and insults with little actual debate being done.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Dec. 27th
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.01.17 03:26:00 -
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I'll just drop in here and comment that while Templar One and the Empyrean Age are okay books, they're bad lorepieces. Tony G. often makes up his own things which contradict the existing lore or are just plain silly in the first place in favor of moving forward the plot. One glaring example is the Broker and how he arranged Tibus Heth, a frigging forklift driver, into the head of Caldari State. I wish CCP would just quietly retcon that all and move on.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 14th
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.02.01 21:16:00 -
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Ermac Vesely wrote:I have two questions for this thread 1. on the point of supersoldiers we know that our clones are augemented at some places we don't know the details but can we maybe put them next to an example that would help us understand how powerful they are? I mean you guys already said they are no Space Marines but they can flip cars, tanks and dropships on every kind of gravity and they don't flinch when they are shot at could we maybe compare them to something like the spartans or would that be wrong ( not II gen spartans, more like the IV gen who are easily recreatable supersoldiers)? Generally, you can think of augmentations that can help a soldier improve his effectiveness on the battlefield, but not do much, or even negatively impact, the clone's lifespan. Things like redundant organs don't fit into this picture, due to the fact that duster clones are designed to be expendable. However, things like enhanced muscle fibers to increase strength, neural implants to improve reaction time, integration with your dropsuit to improve general combat effectiveness at the expense of discomfort and lifespan are things that would make sense. Personally, I'd leave it general and vague like that until we get more info from CCP.
Ermac Vesely wrote:2. I need help to stay in character when it comes to social rp I wanna get into it but my first attempt was a total mess because I havent read the response of someone else properly which ended in a disaster I need some tips for writing in that kind of way I can't really guide you how to do this other than to read threads thoroughly and double-checking what you write to make sure you got it right. Also using paragraphs makes your posts a lot more readable instead of just writing one long block of text.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 29th
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.02.01 21:56:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:So for each empire, who are the "elite" or most feared/effective soldiers?
(Ie. gallente has black eagles, what's the amarr equivalent?) The Black Eagles aren't really a military unit, they're a branch of the Federal Intelligence Office. The real life equivalent would most likely be the Secret Service of the white house.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 29th
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.02.01 22:01:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:The Black Eagles aren't really a military unit, they're a branch of the Federal Intelligence Office. The real life equivalent would most likely be the Secret Service of the white house. Alright thanks :)
What would be the amarr equivalent of a "black ops" squad or something?[/quote] Well, I can't think of any out the top of my head, I think Dagger might have a better clue of this(unless you count the Templars). But generally, a black ops unit conflicts the nature of the Amarr in my opinion, and I don't think they have any equivalent of the sort. They just don't strike me as the kind of people who do top secret operations behind closed doors, when their mission is to spread the faith and convert the entire cluster into the Amarrian faith.
Grahisha of ILF // Writer of Thoughts of a Clone Soldier // Latest entry published Jan. 29th
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